Consumer sentiment is in the dumps despite a solid economy. Goldman Sachs blames ‘lower happiness’
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Goldman Sachs identified a potential culprit for sour consumer sentiment readings: A decline in happiness.
The consumer sentiment index tracked by the University of Michigan hit record lows this year. The index fell 13% year over year in September, due to a drop of almost 8% from August alone.
Economists have widely questioned why sentiment has remained depressed since the Covid pandemic, even as the economy hummed along on paper. Goldman economist Joseph Briggs told clients this week that the downward pressure may stem from broader pessimism in society.
“Low reported economic sentiment likely reflects a more fundamental, downbeat assessment of the state of the world rather than the economy,” Briggs wrote to clients.
Its not the escalating COLA? It definitely isn't the coming disel crunch. It's just a sour mood?
You know what helps me when I am in a bad mood? Comfort food. Maybe this Goldman guy should advise that the government let the people eat cake. That sort of advice has always had a good outcome.
To be sure, Briggs said inflationary pressures are likely also hurting confidence. But he said “lower happiness” at large can partially explain the continued disconnect between sentiment and other measures of the economy’s performance, such as gross domestic product growth or stock market performance, that offer rosier views.
It's almost shocking how out of touch they are. The wealthiest 10% of Americans own 93% of stocks according to a 2024 article.
Briggs also cited a connection between lower overall happiness readings and decreasing trust in institutions. He found that lower trust in these bodies caused a “disproportionate amount” of the decline in net happiness in recent years.
Given the connection to non-economic variables, consumer sentiment readings may not improve even if the economy continues chugging along, Briggs said. As a result, consumer sentiment may become a less useful predictor of economic dynamics, he said.
It's like a parody, or something the onion would write. Economists aren't serious people.
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Not just at record prices but also the LA to Dallas route is slowing down which is for those not in the know real fucken bad.
I guess I'm not in the know...what does this mean?
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I guess I'm not in the know...what does this mean?
I was not either and looked it up.
They're referring to that corridor being one of the largest in terms of supply chain for the rest of the county.
A slow down in that supply chain is an indicator of weak retail demand.
I can't quantify anything for you, but it sounds like another indicator that the stock market doesn't actually represent how well 'the economy' is doing.
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Goldman Sachs identified a potential culprit for sour consumer sentiment readings: A decline in happiness.
The consumer sentiment index tracked by the University of Michigan hit record lows this year. The index fell 13% year over year in September, due to a drop of almost 8% from August alone.
Economists have widely questioned why sentiment has remained depressed since the Covid pandemic, even as the economy hummed along on paper. Goldman economist Joseph Briggs told clients this week that the downward pressure may stem from broader pessimism in society.
“Low reported economic sentiment likely reflects a more fundamental, downbeat assessment of the state of the world rather than the economy,” Briggs wrote to clients.
Its not the escalating COLA? It definitely isn't the coming disel crunch. It's just a sour mood?
You know what helps me when I am in a bad mood? Comfort food. Maybe this Goldman guy should advise that the government let the people eat cake. That sort of advice has always had a good outcome.
I visited a flea market today - a big one in my region - for the first time in a very long time. To my horror, it was 50% TEMU trash - all sales final. It was selling. It made me really, really sad. People buying cheap shit online, marking it up, and selling it to their neighbors. Maybe there is some not-garbage in there but a huge portion of it is just going to fail and end up in a landfill in a year... and this is becoming normal for these people. Things just wear out rapidly and get thrown away and they buy a replacement.
We're killing each other and destroying ecosystems and the climate... so that we can make... this. We're fucked.
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I guess I'm not in the know...what does this mean?
As the other guy noted it's basically one of the big routes for the movement of goods within the US also one of the longer ones. If it slows down it's usually a right fucken bad sign and usually is a pretty solid real world economic indicator of how the economy is doing even if it's a tad imprecise. I live right by where the CA 60 merged with the 10 which is a pretty major merger section and it has been getting increasingly sparce.
Basically to put it in other terms it'd be like living on the Adriatic during the late medieval era and watching Venetian ships coming to port less and less. You may not know what's causing it exactly but you know it's not good regardless.
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Diesel hit record rates and these guys are claiming it's about the vibes?
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Goldman Sachs identified a potential culprit for sour consumer sentiment readings: A decline in happiness.
The consumer sentiment index tracked by the University of Michigan hit record lows this year. The index fell 13% year over year in September, due to a drop of almost 8% from August alone.
Economists have widely questioned why sentiment has remained depressed since the Covid pandemic, even as the economy hummed along on paper. Goldman economist Joseph Briggs told clients this week that the downward pressure may stem from broader pessimism in society.
“Low reported economic sentiment likely reflects a more fundamental, downbeat assessment of the state of the world rather than the economy,” Briggs wrote to clients.
Its not the escalating COLA? It definitely isn't the coming disel crunch. It's just a sour mood?
You know what helps me when I am in a bad mood? Comfort food. Maybe this Goldman guy should advise that the government let the people eat cake. That sort of advice has always had a good outcome.
Dateline 1860: Slave Sentiment Low Despite Record Plantation Profits — Economists Baffled
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Goldman Sachs identified a potential culprit for sour consumer sentiment readings: A decline in happiness.
The consumer sentiment index tracked by the University of Michigan hit record lows this year. The index fell 13% year over year in September, due to a drop of almost 8% from August alone.
Economists have widely questioned why sentiment has remained depressed since the Covid pandemic, even as the economy hummed along on paper. Goldman economist Joseph Briggs told clients this week that the downward pressure may stem from broader pessimism in society.
“Low reported economic sentiment likely reflects a more fundamental, downbeat assessment of the state of the world rather than the economy,” Briggs wrote to clients.
Its not the escalating COLA? It definitely isn't the coming disel crunch. It's just a sour mood?
You know what helps me when I am in a bad mood? Comfort food. Maybe this Goldman guy should advise that the government let the people eat cake. That sort of advice has always had a good outcome.
In other words, the term "the economy" actually means "rich people's yachts".
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Whenever they talk about "the economy", they're talking about the economy for rich people. Not for you.
As long as they measure "the economy" with stock market highs and faulty job and inflation indicators they will remain "confused" and the people "irrational".
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Let them eat cake.
is the cake free? and what is the cake made of?
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You know what? Pizza party for the whole country. And you can wear jeans on Friday. You're welcome.
(Limited to one (1) large pepperoni pizza, to share)
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I visited a flea market today - a big one in my region - for the first time in a very long time. To my horror, it was 50% TEMU trash - all sales final. It was selling. It made me really, really sad. People buying cheap shit online, marking it up, and selling it to their neighbors. Maybe there is some not-garbage in there but a huge portion of it is just going to fail and end up in a landfill in a year... and this is becoming normal for these people. Things just wear out rapidly and get thrown away and they buy a replacement.
We're killing each other and destroying ecosystems and the climate... so that we can make... this. We're fucked.
I hate how people always throw this shit onto other people.
Yea I'm sure Cletus buying shit at a flea market is what's killing us! It's not Bezos going out for coffee on a 747
People need to stop shitting on their neighbours that's exactly what the Epstein class wants.
We could all grow our own tomatoes jog to vacation and never turn on the AC and it would do fuck all for climate change.
It's the fucking corporations and fucking mega rich that are profiting by raping the planet then dumping the cost into us as if me taking 5 min showers is what the real problem is!
Every time you blame the average person trying to survive you absolve assholes like Musk Thiel and the rest of the billionaire pieces of shit.
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Goldman Sachs identified a potential culprit for sour consumer sentiment readings: A decline in happiness.
The consumer sentiment index tracked by the University of Michigan hit record lows this year. The index fell 13% year over year in September, due to a drop of almost 8% from August alone.
Economists have widely questioned why sentiment has remained depressed since the Covid pandemic, even as the economy hummed along on paper. Goldman economist Joseph Briggs told clients this week that the downward pressure may stem from broader pessimism in society.
“Low reported economic sentiment likely reflects a more fundamental, downbeat assessment of the state of the world rather than the economy,” Briggs wrote to clients.
Its not the escalating COLA? It definitely isn't the coming disel crunch. It's just a sour mood?
You know what helps me when I am in a bad mood? Comfort food. Maybe this Goldman guy should advise that the government let the people eat cake. That sort of advice has always had a good outcome.
The economy isn’t just the
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Goldman Sachs identified a potential culprit for sour consumer sentiment readings: A decline in happiness.
The consumer sentiment index tracked by the University of Michigan hit record lows this year. The index fell 13% year over year in September, due to a drop of almost 8% from August alone.
Economists have widely questioned why sentiment has remained depressed since the Covid pandemic, even as the economy hummed along on paper. Goldman economist Joseph Briggs told clients this week that the downward pressure may stem from broader pessimism in society.
“Low reported economic sentiment likely reflects a more fundamental, downbeat assessment of the state of the world rather than the economy,” Briggs wrote to clients.
Its not the escalating COLA? It definitely isn't the coming disel crunch. It's just a sour mood?
You know what helps me when I am in a bad mood? Comfort food. Maybe this Goldman guy should advise that the government let the people eat cake. That sort of advice has always had a good outcome.
@Sunflier it’s not peoples happiness level, it’s the fact that people are only spending on necessities. Nobody is running out to put $2000 on a credit card for a foldable iPhone.
The money isn’t there or quite possibly won’t be there going forward.
Folks are embracing a simpler more affordable life either by choice or circumstance.Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without.
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