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There are exactly two types of musical keys: Ionian, Dorian, Phrygian, Lydian, Mixolydian, and Aolian.

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  • schratzeS schratze

    There are exactly two types of musical keys: Ionian, Dorian, Phrygian, Lydian, Mixolydian, and Aolian. And there's also Locrian, but that doesn't count

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    @schratze I love Dorian. Because I am a Japanese.

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    • schratzeS schratze

      There are exactly two types of musical keys: Ionian, Dorian, Phrygian, Lydian, Mixolydian, and Aolian. And there's also Locrian, but that doesn't count

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      @schratze Underrated toot of the year, contender 2026.

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      • schratzeS schratze

        There are exactly two types of musical keys: Ionian, Dorian, Phrygian, Lydian, Mixolydian, and Aolian. And there's also Locrian, but that doesn't count

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        @schratze there's also the thing japanese traditional music theory is doing.

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        • KotesK Kotes

          @schratze I love Dorian. Because I am a Japanese.

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          @kotaro it's my favorite mode, too. Does that mean I'm secretly Japanese?

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            @schratze there's also the thing japanese traditional music theory is doing.

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            @Primo there is so much more than just this

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            • schratzeS schratze

              @kotaro it's my favorite mode, too. Does that mean I'm secretly Japanese?

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              @schratze Sure!

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                @schratze Sure!

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                @kotaro I am genuinely wondering: is Dorian commonly used in Japanese music?

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                • schratzeS schratze

                  @kotaro I am genuinely wondering: is Dorian commonly used in Japanese music?

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                  @schratze It's not used very often, but at least the Japanese national anthem is in the Dorian mode starting on D.

                  In Gagaku court music, there's an instrument with a fixed temperament called the "shō," which has a structure like a pipe organ turned into a flute, and its tuning is in the Dorian mode.

                  But if you're asking whether it's purely of Japanese origin, that's not the case; it's actually an instrument with Pythagorean tuning that came over from China.

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                    @schratze It's not used very often, but at least the Japanese national anthem is in the Dorian mode starting on D.

                    In Gagaku court music, there's an instrument with a fixed temperament called the "shō," which has a structure like a pipe organ turned into a flute, and its tuning is in the Dorian mode.

                    But if you're asking whether it's purely of Japanese origin, that's not the case; it's actually an instrument with Pythagorean tuning that came over from China.

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                    @schratze Music is a culture of transmission, you know. That's why, in essence, there's no such thing as an origin.

                    It's essentially a global culture.

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                      @schratze Music is a culture of transmission, you know. That's why, in essence, there's no such thing as an origin.

                      It's essentially a global culture.

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                      @kotaro @schratze I'm rather fond of Mixolydian https://youtube.com/watch?v=IqbFzTH3J6s

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                      • GunChleocG GunChleoc

                        @kotaro @schratze I'm rather fond of Mixolydian https://youtube.com/watch?v=IqbFzTH3J6s

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                        @gunchleoc @schratze Me too. It has an Oriental sound, doesn't it? It's also used in Celtic dance.

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                          @gunchleoc @schratze Me too. It has an Oriental sound, doesn't it? It's also used in Celtic dance.

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                          @gunchleoc @schratze I had mastered those modes as naturally as breathing, even before I started studying Western composition. They're like blood and flesh to me.

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                            @gunchleoc @schratze I had mastered those modes as naturally as breathing, even before I started studying Western composition. They're like blood and flesh to me.

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                            @kotaro @schratze Thogail nam Bó is a Celtic song from Scotland, dating back to the 1500's https://www.altpibroch.com/learning/macfarlanes-gathering/

                            Celtic Classical music is quite different from mainline European Classical Music.

                            Another unique genre is from a few centuries later, when musical instruments were outlawed but people still wanted to dance. Modern performances usually add instruments though https://youtube.com/watch?v=ogdUcitRayQ

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                              @kotaro @schratze Thogail nam Bó is a Celtic song from Scotland, dating back to the 1500's https://www.altpibroch.com/learning/macfarlanes-gathering/

                              Celtic Classical music is quite different from mainline European Classical Music.

                              Another unique genre is from a few centuries later, when musical instruments were outlawed but people still wanted to dance. Modern performances usually add instruments though https://youtube.com/watch?v=ogdUcitRayQ

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                              @gunchleoc @schratze By the way, this music is a recording of a Mixolydian mode improvisation I did a while back.

                              Using my perfect pitch, I identified the exact frequencies for a piano tuning that resonates with the sound of a "Suikinkutsu," a Japanese garden acoustic device.

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                              • schratzeS schratze

                                There are exactly two types of musical keys: Ionian, Dorian, Phrygian, Lydian, Mixolydian, and Aolian. And there's also Locrian, but that doesn't count

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                                @schratze If we leave out Super Locrian, he'll be mad

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                                • KotesK Kotes

                                  @gunchleoc @schratze By the way, this music is a recording of a Mixolydian mode improvisation I did a while back.

                                  Using my perfect pitch, I identified the exact frequencies for a piano tuning that resonates with the sound of a "Suikinkutsu," a Japanese garden acoustic device.

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                                  @kotaro @schratze I can see a Japanese garden listening to that. Thanks for sharing 🥰

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