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As part of my continuing project to get my music onto platforms where you can hear it, here are my Li Bai Songs, settings in Mandarin of Tang dynasty poetry.

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  • David McMullinM David McMullin

    As part of my continuing project to get my music onto platforms where you can hear it, here are my Li Bai Songs, settings in Mandarin of Tang dynasty poetry.

    Patrick Mason, baritone; Curtis Macomber, violin; William Anderson, guitar.
    Premiere performance, Washington Square Chamber Music Society, November 9, 1999, Merkin Hall, NYC

    https://mirlo.space/david-mcmullin/release/li-bai-songs

    Score, lyrics etc. here:
    david-mcmullin.com/music/li-bai-songs

    #MyMusic #baritone #violin #guitar #ContemporaryMusic #李白 #中文 #ChinesePoetry

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    @mcmullin @composers I've just listened to Song 1. A moving, mesmerising experience. It makes a very 'human' connection, for want of a better way to articulate it. Wonderful music, wonderful performance, thanks for sharing this. And for sharing the story behind it - it is very moving and 'human' too.

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    • David McMullinM David McMullin

      If this reveals a specifically un-Chinese way of hearing and reacting to this poetry, that doesn’t necessarily bother me—I’m not Chinese, after all, so it’s not surprising if my perspective is different. This is a foreigner’s respectful appreciation. Perhaps respectful in a weird way, but in a sincere and personal way at least.

      5/

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      @mcmullin @composers
      It can be fraught. I remember being at a new music session where a composer from one country gave the singers expressions that they thought was what the people from another country would say. I could hear mutterings beside me from a person from that place "cultural appropriation " and more.

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      • CiaraC Ciara

        @mcmullin @composers I've just listened to Song 1. A moving, mesmerising experience. It makes a very 'human' connection, for want of a better way to articulate it. Wonderful music, wonderful performance, thanks for sharing this. And for sharing the story behind it - it is very moving and 'human' too.

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        @CiaraNi
        Thank you so much, and thanks for telling me too.

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        • Patrick O'BeirneP Patrick O'Beirne

          @mcmullin @composers
          It can be fraught. I remember being at a new music session where a composer from one country gave the singers expressions that they thought was what the people from another country would say. I could hear mutterings beside me from a person from that place "cultural appropriation " and more.

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          @PatrickOBeirne
          Yes, I’ve heard plenty of examples of cultural appropriation in new music, some detestable. And I can understand how someone might accuse me of that regarding a couple of my compositions, but I do my best to approach other cultures, when I do, with humility and respect. In this case, there were special circumstances too; I wasn’t really even going outside my family.
          @composers

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          • David McMullinM David McMullin

            @PatrickOBeirne
            Yes, I’ve heard plenty of examples of cultural appropriation in new music, some detestable. And I can understand how someone might accuse me of that regarding a couple of my compositions, but I do my best to approach other cultures, when I do, with humility and respect. In this case, there were special circumstances too; I wasn’t really even going outside my family.
            @composers

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            @PatrickOBeirne
            I touched on that topic a bit in this old thread too.

            https://musicians.today/@mcmullin/112094655861658591

            @composers

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            • David McMullinM David McMullin

              @PatrickOBeirne
              I touched on that topic a bit in this old thread too.

              https://musicians.today/@mcmullin/112094655861658591

              @composers

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              @PatrickOBeirne

              And more succinctly, here:

              https://musicians.today/@mcmullin/112193096962566402

              @composers

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              • Patrick O'BeirneP Patrick O'Beirne

                @mcmullin @composers
                It can be fraught. I remember being at a new music session where a composer from one country gave the singers expressions that they thought was what the people from another country would say. I could hear mutterings beside me from a person from that place "cultural appropriation " and more.

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                @PatrickOBeirne
                I should perhaps clarify also that none of the Chinese listeners I mentioned above suggested that it was wrong or offensive for me to do this, just that some choices I made about how to do it struck them as odd.

                I’m curious to know what native speakers of Mandarin out there on the fediverse think.

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